| time | login | message |
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| 07-09-30 05:51 | apsides | starting with the worst possible to the not so bad |
| 07-09-30 05:53 | apsides | 1) is anyone/thing bleeding 2) are any bones broken 3) are the police at the door and 4) has property been destroyed. with this list, you can determine the urgency of the situation. |
| 07-09-30 05:54 | Dominian | apsides You left out "Is anyone drunk?" |
| 07-09-30 05:54 | apsides | lol |
| 07-09-30 05:56 | CaptObviousman | ACTION can drive just fine while drunk! |
| 07-09-30 05:56 | apsides | you're right, because if the leader is drunk, or everyone person is drunk, the problem must be deferred for solving at a later time |
| 07-09-30 05:56 | apsides | everyone=every |
| 07-09-30 05:57 | Dominian | I think it would default to 911 |
| 07-09-30 05:57 | Dominian | hehe |
| 07-09-30 06:15 | Gargantua | Hello |
| 07-09-30 06:15 | CaptObviousman | greetings |
| 07-09-30 06:16 | Gargantua | When my computer starts, and I tell lilo to start Slacking, the loading process starts, untill it gives me an "Error in the filesystem, forcing recheck", it reaches 4% then cancels, unmounts all the drives, and then reboots, It has done this for 5 times now, and I had no where else to ask ( |
| 07-09-30 06:18 | niz-8] | Ever considered to tell your Lilo not to slack and do what it's supposed to? ^^, |
| 07-09-30 06:19 | Gargantua | P |
| 07-09-30 06:19 | Gargantua | I told it to start slackware |
| 07-09-30 06:19 | niz-8] | Aah.. |
| 07-09-30 06:27 | Gargantua | so, any ideas? |
| 07-09-30 06:27 | Dominian | bad hardware |
| 07-09-30 06:27 | CaptObviousman | would be my guess as well |
| 07-09-30 06:28 | Gargantua | I don't think so, I'm able to mount the partation from windows. |
| 07-09-30 06:28 | Dominian | Gargantua eh |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | Dominian | Gargantua what file system do you have on the linux drive? |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | eviljames | Wasn't there an issue at one point in time about lilo not wanting to load if the filesystem partition started after a certain point? |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | eviljames | That might have been a different boot loader, though. |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | Dominian | No i think that's lilo |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | Gargantua | ext3 |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | Gargantua | It isnt lilo |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | eviljames | Gargantua, you get past lilo into the kernel don't you? |
| 07-09-30 06:29 | Gargantua | I've been running this for about a week |
| 07-09-30 06:30 | Gargantua | yeah eviljames |
| 07-09-30 06:30 | eviljames | Gargantua, possibly that your kernel does not support ext3? |
| 07-09-30 06:30 | eviljames | that or bad sectors not found during mke2fs |
| 07-09-30 06:30 | eviljames | Did you search for bad sectors during the install process? |
| 07-09-30 06:30 | Gargantua | I've been running slackware for about a week |
| 07-09-30 06:31 | Dominian | any power outages or anything? |
| 07-09-30 06:31 | Gargantua | Nope |
| 07-09-30 06:31 | eviljames | Dominian, windows loads so it's not likely that the entire drive is shot. |
| 07-09-30 06:31 | Gargantua | I've been shutting the computer off manually afew times, though. |
| 07-09-30 06:31 | Gargantua | eviljames, also, I'm able to mount my partations. |
| 07-09-30 06:32 | Dominian | eviljames true, but even with ext3.. hard shut offs and power outages during write oeprations can cause issues. |
| 07-09-30 06:32 | Dominian | Gargantua I would load with the slackware install cd.. boot the drive that way.. and run a fsck on it |
| 07-09-30 06:32 | eviljames | Dominian, agreed on both points. |
| 07-09-30 06:32 | Gargantua | what's fsck? |
| 07-09-30 06:32 | eviljames | FileSystemChecK |
| 07-09-30 06:32 | Dominian | ACTION nods |
| 07-09-30 06:32 | Gargantua | ah |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | eviljames | Don't run it on a running system though. |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Dominian | yeah |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Gargantua | could I use a livecd? |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Dominian | Gargantua sure |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Gargantua | ok. |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Dominian | I've used Slax for that type of ting before |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Gargantua | so something along the lines of "fsck /dev/sda10" |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | eviljames | boot from disc {?2,3} the live cd and fsck /dev/hd?? |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Dominian | ACTION nods |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Gargantua | Dominian, (slax ftw;)) |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Dominian | Gargantua heh |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Dominian | I love slax |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Gargantua | Yeah |
| 07-09-30 06:33 | Dominian | I'd love to make my own live cd based on it |
| 07-09-30 06:34 | Dominian | just haven't gotten around to it |
| 07-09-30 06:34 | Gargantua | it's so freaking small |
| 07-09-30 06:34 | Dominian | got (3) slackware installs to do on Monday |
| 07-09-30 06:34 | eviljames | Dominian, there's 45 minutes burned up... what are you doing the rest of the day? ) |
| 07-09-30 06:34 | Dominian | on a identical systems.. and hitting a brick wall with getting the /dev/md0 raid device to load |
| 07-09-30 06:34 | Dominian | eviljames heeh setting up a SAN |
| 07-09-30 06:34 | eviljames | sweet. |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Dominian | Still have some wiring to run to the co-lo |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Gargantua | Do I need to fsck the entire hd or just the partation? |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Dominian | so monday will be a long day |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Dominian | Gargantua partition |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Gargantua | ok |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Gargantua | thanks |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Dominian | Gargantua which ever partition has linux on it |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Dominian | the other ting.. |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | eviljames | yeah, I don't think fsck on a windows partition would do much good.. |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Dominian | I've not used the ext3 plugin for windows in a long time.. |
| 07-09-30 06:35 | Dominian | but the last I remember.. that plugin can cause some issues when windows mounts/unmounts.. |
| 07-09-30 06:36 | Dominian | specifically if that windows system uses NTFS |
| 07-09-30 06:36 | Dominian | but that could be a moot point by now |
| 07-09-30 06:36 | eviljames | I thought NTFS was solved? The kernel has rw options now..? |
| 07-09-30 06:36 | Dominian | not that |
| 07-09-30 06:36 | Dominian | From Windows mounting ext3 partitions.. |
| 07-09-30 06:36 | eviljames | oh, you're looking at it from the other angle. |
| 07-09-30 06:36 | Dominian | I remember long ago that sometimes it could cause issues |
| 07-09-30 06:45 | eviljames | ok, I know I'm somewhat offtopic here, but the EU decision for MS to open up a bunch of their standards and apis and what not |
| 07-09-30 06:45 | eviljames | will this have any positive effect for linux in general? ie) being able to watch porn in wmv format easily? ) |
| 07-09-30 06:46 | Dominian | hehe |
| 07-09-30 06:46 | Dominian | I would say in the future.. probably |
| 07-09-30 06:46 | Dominian | but not right away |
| 07-09-30 06:48 | eviljames | hm. I've been considering for a couple of months setting up my own Linux OEM shop - send a cut of machine sales to various projects as donations... |
| 07-09-30 06:49 | eviljames | Is there anyone around already doing this that would {en,dis}courage this idea? |
| 07-09-30 06:52 | CaptObviousman | how do you mean, oem shop |
| 07-09-30 06:53 | CaptObviousman | building pcs and installing linux onto them? |
| 07-09-30 06:53 | eviljames | something along those lines. |
| 07-09-30 06:53 | eviljames | Or selling hardware and books on linux complete with install cds. |
| 07-09-30 07:06 | Gargantua | Hey guys, that did the trick, thanks ;) |
| 07-09-30 07:06 | CaptObviousman | woot |
| 07-09-30 07:06 | eviljames | sweet. |
| 07-09-30 07:06 | eviljames | also, you shouldn't be on irc as root. |
| 07-09-30 07:06 | Gargantua | What I just noticed is, sda10 isn't even where slackware is installed. |
| 07-09-30 07:07 | Gargantua | It's just an extra partation that I am going to remove from fstab because it might have something to do with the problem. |
| 07-09-30 07:07 | CaptObviousman | be careful with removing partitions |
| 07-09-30 07:07 | eviljames | possibly, what is on sda10? |
| 07-09-30 07:07 | Gargantua | some old fedora stuff |
| 07-09-30 07:07 | CaptObviousman | fdisk -l /dev/sda and find out what it is |
| 07-09-30 07:08 | CaptObviousman | well, you can edit fstab and mount it to check it out |
| 07-09-30 07:08 | CaptObviousman | if you don't intend to keep fedora then that's wasted space |
| 07-09-30 07:08 | Gargantua | It is mounted. |
| 07-09-30 07:08 | Gargantua | yeah, I'm going to reformat it. |
| 07-09-30 07:08 | Gargantua | and maybe mount /home on it or something |
| 07-09-30 07:08 | Gargantua | thanks again |
| 07-09-30 07:09 | CaptObviousman | that's a good idea |
| 07-09-30 07:22 | xjkx | slackware was on hda7, after altering my disk table its number turned into 5, no data losing, ok? But then when i booted i entered that screen "press control+d to reboot or give root password for mantaince" you think the change was the cause ? What should i do? There is a recommendation to use i2fsck if i use ext2, although i use ext3, i even ran fsck.ext3 -y /dev/hda5 but it said "blabla free blabla" dont remember exactly |
| 07-09-30 07:24 | CaptObviousman | if your root partitio moved around, and you didn't update lilo |
| 07-09-30 07:24 | CaptObviousman | it won't be able to boot to it |
| 07-09-30 07:35 | xjkx | CaptObviousman i kinda reinstalled lilo |
| 07-09-30 07:35 | xjkx | thats not the problem |
| 07-09-30 07:36 | xjkx | i think the kernel thinks its hda7 yet, my best bet |
| 07-09-30 07:38 | xjkx | "root = /dev/hda5" its right, but when i do df -h on the system (giving root password for mantaince) it says / is on hda7, which used to be |
| 07-09-30 07:38 | xjkx | that has never happened before |
| 07-09-30 07:38 | hikarutilmitt | when you say reinstalled lilo |
| 07-09-30 07:38 | hikarutilmitt | you did RUN lilo after editing the file, right |
| 07-09-30 07:38 | niz-8] | In soviet russia, lilo installs YOU. |
| 07-09-30 07:38 | eviljames | and the corresponding entry in fstab? |
| 07-09-30 07:38 | hikarutilmitt | indeed |
| 07-09-30 07:39 | xjkx | i actually ran the cd, simulated a installation putting no packages to install, it asked me to install lilo on mbr ) |
| 07-09-30 07:39 | xjkx | i tried running lilo from the cd`s shell but didnt work |
| 07-09-30 07:40 | xjkx | anyway its installed well |
| 07-09-30 07:40 | xjkx | its something else |
| 07-09-30 07:40 | xjkx | hda7 is swap, it wouldnt ever be mounted there |
| 07-09-30 07:40 | hikarutilmitt | then yeah |
| 07-09-30 07:40 | hikarutilmitt | check your fstab |
| 07-09-30 07:40 | hikarutilmitt | see what's mouned and how |
| 07-09-30 07:41 | xjkx | oh you are right, the fstab didnt change ! I thought it would handle it for me (the cd) |
| 07-09-30 07:42 | hikarutilmitt | no way |
| 07-09-30 07:42 | hikarutilmitt | not unless you make the fstab change s in the menu |
| 07-09-30 07:42 | hikarutilmitt | you can't just choose "install" and leave it that way, for that |
| 07-09-30 07:42 | hikarutilmitt | you need to start with picking the swap partition and then follow the rest |
| 07-09-30 07:43 | hikarutilmitt | otherwise you're skipping it and god knows whatll happen |
| 07-09-30 07:44 | xjkx | ) thanks, will boot there now |
| 07-09-30 07:44 | rapid | how should i start programs as myself, on reboot ? |
| 07-09-30 07:44 | rapid | wouldn't they be loaded as root in rc.local |
| 07-09-30 07:45 | hikarutilmitt | you mean have them load automatically when you log into your non-root user account |
| 07-09-30 07:45 | hikarutilmitt | ? |
| 07-09-30 07:45 | rapid | on boot preferably |
| 07-09-30 07:45 | rapid | in case of power failure etc.. |
| 07-09-30 07:46 | niz-8] | I believe the term is running it as a "daemon". |
| 07-09-30 07:46 | hikarutilmitt | ^ |
| 07-09-30 07:46 | rapid | ah |
| 07-09-30 08:11 | chios | slack 12 runs bit sluggish on an athlonXP 2000+ clocked at 1667mhz. Anyone aware of it? |
| 07-09-30 08:13 | chios | cp alone takes 10% of cpu |
| 07-09-30 08:13 | chios | I am thinking SMP is to blame for that. |
| 07-09-30 08:13 | jaskorpe | what does "runs" mean? |
| 07-09-30 08:14 | chios | performs. |
| 07-09-30 08:14 | jaskorpe | yes. but what are you running? |
| 07-09-30 08:14 | chios | cp command for instance. |
| 07-09-30 08:15 | jaskorpe | IO isn't cheap |
| 07-09-30 08:16 | chios | It wasn't this bad with previous version of slackware. |
| 07-09-30 08:16 | chios | I have DMA enabled. |
| 07-09-30 08:16 | chios | That should take the load of cpu. |
| 07-09-30 08:17 | jaskorpe | everything depends on what else your machine is doing |
| 07-09-30 08:17 | chios | Nothing. |
| 07-09-30 08:19 | jaskorpe | chios dma doesn't take off all the load |
| 07-09-30 08:19 | jaskorpe | there is still some work to do for the cpu |
| 07-09-30 08:19 | chios | jaskorpe, Never this much. |
| 07-09-30 08:19 | jaskorpe | ok |
| 07-09-30 08:19 | jaskorpe | then i haven't noticed |
| 07-09-30 08:20 | hikarutilmitt | then optimize yourself a kernel |
| 07-09-30 08:20 | hikarutilmitt | ) |
| 07-09-30 08:20 | chios | I do have an E6600 and that one performs better than anything I've seen before. |
| 07-09-30 08:21 | chios | hikarutilmitt, That will be the case. |
| 07-09-30 08:21 | hikarutilmitt | i don't even "need" to other than for a driver for my sound, but i still do out of habit and just because |
| 07-09-30 08:21 | chios | Its just that Pat suggest we use this kernel even for single core CPUs. |
| 07-09-30 08:22 | hikarutilmitt | SMP won't "hurt" to have on |
| 07-09-30 08:22 | hikarutilmitt | but if you'r enever using it in that kernel, why have it on |
| 07-09-30 08:22 | hikarutilmitt | it's not causing any real problems |
| 07-09-30 08:22 | hikarutilmitt | but still |
| 07-09-30 08:22 | Ardin | ACTION pops Comedy Central Presents on |
| 07-09-30 08:23 | chios | What could it be then? |
| 07-09-30 08:23 | chios | I wonder. |
| 07-09-30 08:23 | jaskorpe | your imagination? |
| 07-09-30 08:23 | hikarutilmitt | it's curious why cp would eat that much cpu though |
| 07-09-30 08:23 | hikarutilmitt | unless it's a misreading |
| 07-09-30 08:24 | hikarutilmitt | but then |
| 07-09-30 08:24 | jaskorpe | or maybe you are cp'ing to or from nfs? |
| 07-09-30 08:24 | hikarutilmitt | it also depends on what you're cping |
| 07-09-30 08:25 | chios | hikarutilmitt, It becomes obvious since gui becomes slower. |
| 07-09-30 08:25 | chios | cp'ing from cifs |
| 07-09-30 08:25 | hikarutilmitt | gui becomes slower? |
| 07-09-30 08:26 | hikarutilmitt | are you CERTAIN DMA is on? P |
| 07-09-30 08:26 | chios | using_dma = 1 (on) |
| 07-09-30 08:26 | chios | Could it be misreading? |
| 07-09-30 08:26 | hikarutilmitt | i doubt that |
| 07-09-30 08:26 | hikarutilmitt | weir |
| 07-09-30 08:26 | hikarutilmitt | d |
| 07-09-30 08:27 | chios | Also have a E6600, works great. |
| 07-09-30 08:27 | Ardin | i have a question. how could i make video playback faster? right now if i try and play mkv (maktrosa files, dual audio anime usually for me) or even some avi files, the cpu goes up to 99-100%, and skips sometimes... using vlc it skips every once in awhile, and using smplayer it just damn near stops |
| 07-09-30 08:27 | hikarutilmitt | get a better cpu? |
| 07-09-30 08:27 | Ardin | they worked fine on windows with vlc... |
